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Joanne Birnbaum's avatar

how many times in the 50+ years have we had this conversation and yet nothing changes it just takes on a different form. I personally feel at some point in time, women will be at a place where we will be equal (if not more hybrid evolved) than our male counterparts. Till then, we play the game; fortunately, we’re better at it. thank you for this enjoyable article. Love this.

Toni Albertson's avatar

We really have been having this conversation forever. Different decade, same tension.

What stands out to me most is you. You held positions of power and still managed to do things on your own terms. That’s not easy, and it’s not common. And I love that you said “we’re better at it” because honestly, we’ve had to be. Also… I’m smiling because you’re officially one of the “mystery women” from my last piece. The Italian one, my person. Thank you for always being in this conversation with me, for reading my stories, and for ALWAYS supporting me.

Joanne Birnbaum's avatar

you’re giving away my cover, you know I’m only half Italian…

Toni Albertson's avatar

So am I so together we make a 100 percent Italian woman.

Elena S. Jarvis's avatar

This is so profound Toni. Haven't we all been there? Or at least those of us who keep tabs on such things. Can't tell you the many times men, under the guise of mentorship, have disappointed me with their ulterior motives. I suppose like the competitiveness that writers -- especially -- feel, it's just human nature. I'll be reading this many more times to remind me to fight the power.

Toni Albertson's avatar

Elena, this means more to me than I can put into words. You’ve always been the one in my corner, pushing me, believing in me, and nudging me toward something bigger than I could see for myself at the time. And I’m laughing that the “mystery person” in my last story is officially revealed. 😂 Some secrets are too good to keep. Thank you for being such a constant in my life, and for helping shape the path that led me into academics. I wouldn’t be where I am without you. 💛 This is what women supporting women looks like., and you are the queen of it.